Class P and ZP four-wheeled passenger brake vans (Class C before 1900)

Before 1900 the brake vans were divided into two groups. The passenger brake vans were in class C along with all of the bogie brake vans (later class Z) and the six-wheelers inherited from the G.S.R. The four-wheeled goods brake vans were in class D.

The passenger four-wheeled vans were constructed to carriage stock standards with panelled sides matching the early 4-wheeled coaches. There were a total of eight passenger type four wheelers in class C.

The lack of record cards before 1909 when several of these vans were written off makes their final disposal dates a little uncertain. My best estimate so far is listed below as I do not have the record card for this class.

Right: One of the 4 wheeled passenger brake vans at Perth in 1893 (RHWA collection).

Old Number Believed Built New wagon stock number Date renumbered Fate
C1 1881 P 5005 28/11/00 Written off before 1904
C2 3/1881 P 5006 16/11/00 Sold to Public Works Department March 1922
C3 3/1881 P 5007 13/11/00 Gone before 1913 when new D built
C4 1884 P 5008 1/9/00 Written off before 1904
C5 7/1886 P 5009 17/11/00 Written off December 1930
C6 1886 - - Gone before 1900 renumbering scheme drawn up
C7 7/1886 P 5010 29/9/00? Gone before 1913 when new D built.
C8 1886 P 5011 4/10/00 To Port Hedland. Reclassified ZP June 1936. Became ZP2 in forties. Written off November 1951.

In June 1918 a P van was transferred from the P.W.D. to the W.A.G.R. It was numbered P10077 by the W.A.G.R. and was one of the vans sold out of service. It was rebuilt in May 1920 and written off in June 1929. It was used on the isolated Norseman-Esperance section during this period. The photo below shows P10077 and it was definitely one of the passenger P vans. There is a difference though from both the picture above and the diagram in that the ducket is at the end of the van rather than the Guard's door.

P10077 on the Esperance line- Esperance Museum (RHWA collection)

The WAGR outline diagram is shown below.

There were also two ex four-wheeled carriages listed as P class vans in 1900. These were P 4914 (ex AI 3) and P 5182 (ex AI 259). They quickly became DW class workmen's vans.

Other brake vans

The W.A.G.R.'s other brake vans can be found under Class Z. After 1936 the remaining four-wheeled vans were class ZP. In 1953 two experimental four-wheeled vans were built which were class ZF.

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